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    <name>Richard Goodwin</name>
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    <title
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      mode="escaped">Battle for Wesnoth</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Mark (Mark76)</name>
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    <id>http://iconbar.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10948&amp;page=1#108517</id>
    <modified>2008-10-10T23:16:10Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-10-10T23:16:10Z</issued>
    <created>2008-10-10T23:16:10Z</created>
    <summary
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      mode="escaped">*Raises hand*</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>*Raises hand*<br /><br />Yep. I've done Two Brothers too (hmm... I wonder if that might be misconstrued). I've also completed a few other campaigns but mostly I play online against a chap from Spain.<br /><br />[Edited by <a href="http://www.iconbar.com/forums/profile.php?username=Mark76">Mark76</a> at 07:44, 11/10/2008]</p><p>Posted by Mark (Mark76) in Games<br />
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    <title
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      mode="escaped">Dwarf Fortress</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Jeffrey Lee (Phlamethrower)</name>
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    <id>http://iconbar.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10927&amp;page=2#108516</id>
    <modified>2008-10-10T21:50:29Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-10-10T21:50:29Z</issued>
    <created>2008-10-10T21:50:29Z</created>
    <summary
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      mode="escaped">"Migrants refused to journey to such a dangerous fortress this season"</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><blockquote><blockquote>For my newer, more ambitious fort, cast your eyes <a href="http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-3664-blockaderhyming">this way</a>.</blockquote><br /><br />That is awesome. Let us know how it goes!</blockquote><br /><br /><a href="http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-3691-blockaderhyming">"Migrants refused to journey to such a dangerous fortress this season"</a><br /><br />Is that the kind of update you were hoping for? <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>Posted by Jeffrey Lee (Phlamethrower) in Games<br />
<a href="http://iconbar.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10927&amp;amp;page=2#108516">31 comments in forum</a>
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    <title
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      mode="escaped">Battle for Wesnoth</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Andrew (andrew)</name>
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    <id>http://iconbar.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10948&amp;page=1#108515</id>
    <modified>2008-10-10T21:36:27Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-10-10T21:36:27Z</issued>
    <created>2008-10-10T21:36:27Z</created>
    <summary
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      mode="escaped">Anybody playing this? I've done the tale of 2 Brothers campaign and have completed about 4 of the rightful heir story (can't remember the exact name) which is an epic and that's not even with listening to the music!</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Anybody playing this? I've done the tale of 2 Brothers campaign and have completed about 4 of the rightful heir story (can't remember the exact name) which is an epic and that's not even with listening to the music!<br /><br />Currently stuck on "The Siege of &amp;lt;town&amp;gt;". There's a great level preceding this with similarly great AI for your allies fending off the enemy. Any experts here?<br /><br />[Edited by <a href="http://www.iconbar.com/forums/profile.php?username=andrew">andrew</a> at 22:36, 10/10/2008]</p><p>Posted by Andrew (andrew) in Games<br />
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    <title
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      mode="escaped">What's your next computer?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>John Hoare (moss)</name>
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    <id>http://iconbar.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=9790&amp;page=2#108514</id>
    <modified>2008-10-09T17:11:35Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-10-09T17:11:35Z</issued>
    <created>2008-10-09T17:11:35Z</created>
    <summary
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      mode="escaped">Ah-ha! I'd known about the rumours about Oct 14th for a while, but nice to see it confirmed</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Ah-ha! I'd known about the rumours about Oct 14th for a while, but nice to see it confirmed <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br /><br />Pretty much definitely getting one before Christmas. The budget is all set aside - it's just I'm right in the middle of moving to London at the moment, so I can only really justify getting it once me and Tanya are all settled in.</p><p>Posted by John Hoare (moss) in General<br />
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    <title
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      mode="escaped">What's your next computer?</title>
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      <name>Phil Mellor (monkeyson2)</name>
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    <id>http://iconbar.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=9790&amp;page=2#108513</id>
    <modified>2008-10-09T16:55:00Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-10-09T16:55:00Z</issued>
    <created>2008-10-09T16:55:00Z</created>
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      <![CDATA[<p><blockquote>I guess I'd better wait for the next revision of the Pro, if one may well happen within a year. A speed bump I could cope with missing out on, but I'd rather not miss out on an entire case redesign, if only because it's likely to be thinner and lighter. (Also, it's possible they might do what they did with the iMac, and make it cheaper at the same time...)</blockquote><br /><br /><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/09/apple-notebook-event-is-on-october-14th/">OCTOBER 14TH</a></p><p>Posted by Phil Mellor (monkeyson2) in General<br />
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    <title
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      <name>richard cheng (richcheng)</name>
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    <id>http://iconbar.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10927&amp;page=2#108512</id>
    <modified>2008-10-09T14:21:36Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-10-09T14:21:36Z</issued>
    <created>2008-10-09T14:21:36Z</created>
    <summary
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      mode="escaped">That is awesome. Let us know how it goes!</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><blockquote>For my newer, more ambitious fort, cast your eyes <a href="http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-3664-blockaderhyming">this way</a>.</blockquote><br /><br />That is awesome. Let us know how it goes!</p><p>Posted by richard cheng (richcheng) in Games<br />
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    <title
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    <author>
      <name>Simon Challands (SimonC)</name>
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    <id>http://iconbar.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10938&amp;page=1#108511</id>
    <modified>2008-10-09T09:22:17Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-10-09T09:22:17Z</issued>
    <created>2008-10-09T09:22:17Z</created>
    <summary
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      mode="escaped">Nothing concrete, it just feels nicer to use - it doesn't drive me nuts in the way Windows does with its attempts at hiding everything from you, and the guis I've seen on Linux (not many admittedly) seem to be too inspired by Windows. I don't know about Macs.</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><blockquote><blockquote>I know it's sad to see a platform fizzle out, but at the end of the day a company has to make a profit, or at the very least break even, and if they can't then they won't go on selling.<br /></blockquote><br /><br />To be honest I'm amazed the Iyonix lasted this long in a market that virtually doesn't exist.<br /><br />It is definitely sad for a platform fizzle out, it took me a long while to get over it but RO just doesn't have many/any strengths anymore. Even if a half-decent budget was applied, the OS is seriously out-of-date and I think it's about time the respirator was switched off. I can't see any market in porting it, what are the advantages...real advantages....?</blockquote><br />Nothing concrete, it just feels nicer to use - it doesn't drive me nuts in the way Windows does with its attempts at hiding everything from you, and the guis I've seen on Linux (not many admittedly) seem to be too inspired by Windows. I don't know about Macs. Of course, that's provided you're happy with the much more limited range of things that you can actually do, usually slower than on other machines. It's hard to see a practical way it can survive; it's too tied to slow hardware and old software, and there's too much work needed to bring rather a lot of it up to date for a genuinely modern version to ever appear.</p><p>Posted by Simon Challands (SimonC) in General<br />
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    <title
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      mode="escaped">Last of the Iyonix</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Andrew (andrew)</name>
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    <id>http://iconbar.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10938&amp;page=1#108510</id>
    <modified>2008-10-08T23:09:12Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-10-08T23:09:12Z</issued>
    <created>2008-10-08T23:09:12Z</created>
    <summary
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      mode="escaped">As said above, part of the RISC OS market was after the compact low-power demanding OS that RISC OS represents or represented which doesn't get mentioned. Anyway, novelty is often much sought after. Many people (that is, many more than care to post on usenet etc) like the GUI a great deal and various applications a great deal.</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><blockquote><blockquote>I know it's sad to see a platform fizzle out, but at the end of the day a company has to make a profit, or at the very least break even, and if they can't then they won't go on selling.<br /></blockquote><br /><br />To be honest I'm amazed the Iyonix lasted this long in a market that virtually doesn't exist.<br /><br />It is definitely sad for a platform fizzle out, it took me a long while to get over it but RO just doesn't have many/any strengths anymore. Even if a half-decent budget was applied, the OS is seriously out-of-date and I think it's about time the respirator was switched off. I can't see any market in porting it, what are the advantages...real advantages....?<br /><br />It would be so nice to have it bounce back from the ashes but I can't see how unless someone is going to resurrect the old STB idea :-|</blockquote><br /><br />As said above, part of the RISC OS market was after the compact low-power demanding OS that RISC OS represents or represented which doesn't get mentioned. Anyway, novelty is often much sought after. Many people (that is, many more than care to post on usenet etc) like the GUI a great deal and various applications a great deal. There's one possibility for a start that it can get the best of all worlds by running on top of Linux whilst retaining the ability to access the hardware.<br /><br /><br /><br />[Edited by <a href="http://www.iconbar.com/forums/profile.php?username=andrew">andrew</a> at 00:10, 9/10/2008]</p><p>Posted by Andrew (andrew) in General<br />
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    <title
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      mode="escaped">Last of the Iyonix</title>
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      <name>Andrew (andrew)</name>
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    <id>http://iconbar.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10938&amp;page=1#108509</id>
    <modified>2008-10-08T23:03:31Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-10-08T23:03:31Z</issued>
    <created>2008-10-08T23:03:31Z</created>
    <summary
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      mode="escaped">I think a lot of people would disagree with that on grounds of productivity and ease of use for two.</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><blockquote><blockquote>The Iyonix is over around 6 years old now so comparing to brand new modern PCs isn't fair.</blockquote><br />Yeah, but even comparing it to a 2002 PC leaves it somewhat lacking.</blockquote><br /><br />I think a lot of people would disagree with that on grounds of productivity and ease of use for two.</p><p>Posted by Andrew (andrew) in General<br />
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      <name>Nathan (Wrath)</name>
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    <id>http://iconbar.com/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10938&amp;page=1#108508</id>
    <modified>2008-10-08T21:14:18Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-10-08T21:14:18Z</issued>
    <created>2008-10-08T21:14:18Z</created>
    <summary
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      mode="escaped">To be honest I'm amazed the Iyonix lasted this long in a market that virtually doesn't exist.</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><blockquote>I know it's sad to see a platform fizzle out, but at the end of the day a company has to make a profit, or at the very least break even, and if they can't then they won't go on selling.<br /></blockquote><br /><br />To be honest I'm amazed the Iyonix lasted this long in a market that virtually doesn't exist.<br /><br />It is definitely sad for a platform fizzle out, it took me a long while to get over it but RO just doesn't have many/any strengths anymore. Even if a half-decent budget was applied, the OS is seriously out-of-date and I think it's about time the respirator was switched off. I can't see any market in porting it, what are the advantages...real advantages....?<br /><br />It would be so nice to have it bounce back from the ashes but I can't see how unless someone is going to resurrect the old STB idea :-|</p><p>Posted by Nathan (Wrath) in General<br />
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