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David Holden |
Message #113803, posted by apdl at 12:57, 26/3/2010 |
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I just uploaded about another 250 discs this morning. Will try to do some more over the next few days.
There are also hundreds of Tracker files in the library which appear on the PD-2 CD. I haven't bothered with these so far but if anyone's interested I'll try to make them available too. |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #113804, posted by filecore at 14:05, 26/3/2010, in reply to message #113803 |
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I just uploaded about another 250 discs this morning. Will try to do some more over the next few days. Just out of curiosity, how many are there in total? |
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David Holden |
Message #113806, posted by apdl at 14:23, 26/3/2010, in reply to message #113804 |
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2581 disc images. Some of these will be duplicates (e.g. where there are both HD and DD versions) and some will be things that aren't worth preserving. However this doesn't include stuff which was only sold as individual files like Tracker tunes. |
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Andrew Poole |
Message #113807, posted by andypoole at 14:30, 26/3/2010, in reply to message #113803 |
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There are also hundreds of Tracker files in the library which appear on the PD-2 CD. I haven't bothered with these so far but if anyone's interested I'll try to make them available too. I'd be interested in these. I lost my collection of tracker files when a hard disc died last year 
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Martin Bazley |
Message #113818, posted by swirlythingy at 18:01, 26/3/2010, in reply to message #113807 |
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There are also hundreds of Tracker files in the library which appear on the PD-2 CD. I haven't bothered with these so far but if anyone's interested I'll try to make them available too. I'd be interested in these. I lost my collection of tracker files when a hard disc died last year
I'd definitely be interested. |
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Ralph Corderoy |
Message #113819, posted by ralph at 19:14, 26/3/2010, in reply to message #113803 |
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+1 for the Trackers. They're still useful, and on non-RISC OS systems too. Thanks for the effort David. |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #113821, posted by filecore at 19:54, 26/3/2010, in reply to message #113819 |
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+1 for the Trackers. They're still useful, and on non-RISC OS systems too. Thanks for the effort David. Yep, count me in too, and thanks also for the work you're putting in. Your effort will be appreciated by a lot of people, I'm sure! |
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Blind Moose |
Message #113824, posted by Acornut at 20:32, 26/3/2010, in reply to message #113821 |
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Your effort will be appreciated by a lot of people, I'm sure! Seconded, or should that be, thirded?  |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #113825, posted by filecore at 21:37, 26/3/2010, in reply to message #113824 |
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Seconded, or should that be, thirded? No, it should not be. When dealing with discrete human beings, each one can merely 'second' something. I hate seeing 'thirded' on forums and suchlike; it betrays such a shallow grasp of grammar and linguistic function. |
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David Holden |
Message #113826, posted by apdl at 07:06, 27/3/2010, in reply to message #113824 |
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I didn't think there'd be much interest in the music files but as there obviously is I'll certainly make them available.
However it will be a while as a quick count showed 324 Maestro, 1587 Digital Symphony and 1866 various Tracker files in the catalogue so it will take some time to sort them out. |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #113827, posted by filecore at 07:20, 27/3/2010, in reply to message #113826 |
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I didn't think there'd be much interest in the music files but as there obviously is I'll certainly make them available. The last big thing that RISC OS was commercially viable for was music production (Sibelius in particular) and there are a lot of people from the music community who are famililar with RISC OS - so in a way, I guess it's not really a surprise. |
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Blind Moose |
Message #113828, posted by Acornut at 09:03, 27/3/2010, in reply to message #113825 |
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Seconded, or should that be, thirded? No, it should not be.... (bombastic). Ahh! Sorry, just checked again, should have been, fifthded !!  |
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Chris Williams |
Message #113833, posted by diodesign at 14:46, 28/3/2010, in reply to message #113803 |
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A month or so ago I posted a message to suggest that if Dave is serious about RISC OS, he could make copies of his PD CDs available for download for a small fee - I didn't expect him to dump his collection online for free download, a pleasant surprise. There's a serious amount of nostalgia right there, even for people like me who no longer use the OS. |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #113834, posted by filecore at 15:40, 28/3/2010, in reply to message #113833 |
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A month or so ago I posted a message to suggest that if Dave is serious about RISC OS, he could make copies of his PD CDs available for download for a small fee This should really have been the way to go some years back. Sell many at a low per-unit price, or sell very few at a high per-unit price. The last remnants of the Acorn market chose the latter, when arguably the former would have yielded higher commercial success. While I'm happy about this action and hope that things shape up, there's a little bit of too little, too late about it. |
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George Greenfield |
Message #113837, posted by Bucksboy at 16:26, 28/3/2010, in reply to message #113834 |
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"..there's a little bit of too little, too late about it."
Let's hope not. I've been following the various threads on the ROOL Forum for over a year, and it's quite noticeable how the activity levels are increasing, both in terms of the number of projects and the number of people involved. Whereas the outstanding Jeffrey Lee was a lone voice in the wilderness a year ago, now getting on for a dozen regular posters are pushing various porting and other projects forward, and I think there'd be pretty short odds on at least one Iyonix replacement becoming available as a genuinely usable RISC OS computer before the end of 2010. Of course this does support your main point regarding relative cost. |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #113838, posted by filecore at 16:45, 28/3/2010, in reply to message #113837 |
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I think there'd be pretty short odds on at least one Iyonix replacement becoming available as a genuinely usable RISC OS computer before the end of 2010. Okay, I don't really follow the ROOL stuff (I'm only vaguely aware of the work on Beagleboard, OMAP, IPEGv2 et al) but we've heard this sort of talk before. Whatever the intentions, these things almost invariably seem to get drawn out so thin they vanish, or they get cancelled due to politics/finances/trolling/piracy/whatever. Do you really think it's that realistic? |
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George Greenfield |
Message #113839, posted by Bucksboy at 20:23, 28/3/2010, in reply to message #113838 |
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Yes. |
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David Holden |
Message #113911, posted by apdl at 06:40, 4/4/2010, in reply to message #113839 |
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There are also hundreds of Tracker files in the library which appear on the PD-2 CD. I haven't bothered with these so far but if anyone's interested I'll try to make them available too. Since there seemed to be quite a bit of interest I've just finished uploading all the Tracker, Maestro, Digital Symphony etc. files. Thousands of them.
Have fun. |
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Blind Moose |
Message #113912, posted by Acornut at 11:00, 4/4/2010, in reply to message #113911 |
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Have fun.  Great stuff! Thanks David,: |
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Trevor Johnson |
Message #113914, posted by trevj at 07:45, 6/4/2010, in reply to message #113911 |
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Nice one - thanks! This is a really great resource  |
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Anthony Davies |
Message #114008, posted by adavies at 09:09, 19/4/2010, in reply to message #113914 |
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Haha, i fond this pretty cool, there are some guys calling themsevles acorn antiques who have put it on the Piratebay, i suppose thats good becos it takes the load of the apdl server!! its at http://thepiratebay.org/user/antiques/
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David Holden |
Message #114016, posted by apdl at 08:02, 20/4/2010, in reply to message #114008 |
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Since someone has spent a lot of time stealing a lot of my stuff and "making it available for posterity" I'd expected this. When I wrote the programs to create all the archives I made sure that quite a lot of them contained garbage and others were deliberately corrupted. Hopefully lots of freetards will grab this 1.3GB torrent and then find out that a lot of the bits they really want either aren't there or are corrupted
Of course, now that most people with RISC OS don't bother with virus checking I might have taken the opportunity to introduce a few of those as well.
Anyway, thanks to the activity of this scumbag (yes, I do know who you are) I've now withdrawn the whole thing. Perhaps I'll even name him so you'll all know who to blame.
If he owns up and apologises I might consider re-instating it but for now it's gone. Perhaps I might change my mind and make it available again when he grows up, reaches puberty and discovers girls (or more likely, given his social skills, sheep). |
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vanpeebles |
Message #114017, posted by vanpeebles at 08:08, 20/4/2010, in reply to message #114016 |
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So you put viruses in the ones on your website? |
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Andrew Poole |
Message #114018, posted by andypoole at 09:32, 20/4/2010, in reply to message #114016 |
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Since someone has spent a lot of time stealing a lot of my stuff and "making it available for posterity" I'd expected this. When I wrote the programs to create all the archives I made sure that quite a lot of them contained garbage and others were deliberately corrupted. Hopefully lots of freetards will grab this 1.3GB torrent and then find out that a lot of the bits they really want either aren't there or are corrupted Well of the few I downloaded in the last few weeks (I'd probably have looked through it more, but I don't have that much free time these days), none of them seemed broken or corrupted. A few zipfiles were missing here and there, though.
Of course, now that most people with RISC OS don't bother with virus checking I might have taken the opportunity to introduce a few of those as well. Yeah, but since versions of RISC OS > 3.5 (IIRC) run the vprotect module by default, they'll get a warning of any naughtiness in there. Anyone still using anywhere near that old an OS probably doesn't care much by now anyway.
Given that threat, though, maybe I should make a note to not buy anything from APDL in future for fear of being sold corrupt or virus ridden software. One does have to wonder why companies like to inconvenience legitimate users just to try and combat "piracy". It's usually the case that legit users get far more inconvenience for going about things the "right" way than the pirates do.
Shame I never got round to looking through the trackers/etc
Just my 2p.
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Philip Webster |
Message #114019, posted by pwx at 10:31, 20/4/2010, in reply to message #114016 |
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I think the question of whether viruses were deliberately added to some of the downloadable files by Mr Holden needs answering.
If viruses were added then it needs to be made clear which parts of the archive were infected, for the sake of any users that may have downloaded the files with no intention of spreading them via p2p networks. |
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Rob Kendrick |
Message #114020, posted by nunfetishist at 10:41, 20/4/2010, in reply to message #114016 |
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When I wrote the programs to create all the archives I made sure that quite a lot of them contained garbage and others were deliberately corrupted. You mean, your program has a bug?
Of course, now that most people with RISC OS don't bother with virus checking I might have taken the opportunity to introduce a few of those as well. According to Martin Hansen, RISC OS is virus free! Also, two wrongs don't make a right. And distributing viruses is illegal, where copyright infringement is simply a civil matter, so you'd be wronger.
If he owns up and apologises I might consider re-instating it but for now it's gone. Perhaps I might change my mind and make it available again when he grows up, reaches puberty and discovers girls (or more likely, given his social skills, sheep). And that sort of language is /so/ likely to get people to agree with you, isn't it? |
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Chris Evans |
Message #114021, posted by CJE at 10:51, 20/4/2010, in reply to message #114019 |
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I think the question of whether viruses were deliberately added to some of the downloadable files by Mr Holden needs answering.
I'm sure you are missunderstanding what Dave said, he said "... now that most people with RISC OS don't bother with virus checking I might have taken the opportunity to introduce a few of those as well." I read that as IF he'd known they were going to be pirated he'd have done that, not that he has.
Also I read it that the "quite a lot of them contained garbage and others were deliberately corrupted" was referring to the CDs not the web downloads!
Anyway I'm sure it is Dave (quite justifiably) just having a bit of grumble about Pirates.
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Rob Kendrick |
Message #114022, posted by nunfetishist at 10:52, 20/4/2010, in reply to message #114021 |
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Anyway I'm sure it is Dave (quite justifiably) just having a bit of grumble about Pirates. Yeah, especially given his built his business by selling other people's work. |
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Philip Webster |
Message #114023, posted by pwx at 11:33, 20/4/2010, in reply to message #114021 |
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I'm sure you are missunderstanding what Dave said, he said "... now that most people with RISC OS don't bother with virus checking I might have taken the opportunity to introduce a few of those as well." I read that as IF he'd known they were going to be pirated he'd have done that, not that he has.
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Even so, deliberately introducing viruses would still have affected the innocent users who downloaded the archives without the intention of infringing copyright by redistributing over p2p. For anyone to think that deliberate virus infection is a legitimate course of action under any circumstances is a serious cause for concern in my opinion. It is both immoral and criminal. |
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Andrew Hodgson |
Message #114024, posted by Andy_Hodgson at 12:32, 20/4/2010, in reply to message #114023 |
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Whatever David's reasons are for his statement, what he has done is affect his business. People are going to unsure as to the quality of the software he is selling.
Grumbling and complaining about what a small percentage of people may or may not have done, is not the best way of conducting business.
I mean just ask that person that tried to revive Acorn, what an idiot he was.
Oh wait... |
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APDL, long-time distributor of Public Domain and not-so Public Domain software, have taken the next logical step from distributing their PD/freeware collection on floppy disc or CD and have begun distributing it online instead. Apart from the obvious advantage to the end-user of being able to access the software immediately, APDL have also decided to forgoe charging any nominal download fees, making the archive truly free.
