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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #109124, posted by Phlamethrower at 01:04, 14/1/2009, in reply to message #109123 |
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The OMAP3530 TRM is 3426 pages long. Can I give up yet?  |
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keith dunlop |
Message #109131, posted by epistaxsis at 21:27, 14/1/2009, in reply to message #109124 |
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John Hoare |
Message #109580, posted by moss at 22:22, 19/3/2009, in reply to message #109131 |
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...I have just ordered a Macbook Pro. After three years of WHINGING about it.
17" Glossy Display, 2.93 Ghz, 4GB RAM, 7200rpm 320GB drive.
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Phil Mellor |
Message #109582, posted by monkeyson2 at 11:38, 20/3/2009, in reply to message #109580 |
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...I have just ordered a Macbook Pro. After three years of WHINGING about it.
17" Glossy Display, 2.93 Ghz, 4GB RAM, 7200rpm 320GB drive.
You'll love it! |
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Edward Rogers |
Message #109594, posted by Monty at 00:03, 23/3/2009, in reply to message #109582 |
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Next computer, probably a beagleboard---once RO5 has been ported over. No pressure or anything ...
Will be a curious state of affairs if Jeffrey Lee is responsible, by bringing it to modern hardware, for saving Riscos from a future as little more than an emulated curiosity. I wonder if ROLtd and Castle would acknowedge him? |
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Peter Howkins |
Message #109596, posted by flibble at 14:32, 23/3/2009, in reply to message #109594 |
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I wonder if ROLtd and Castle would acknowedge him? Do those companies still exist? |
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van Engelen Thomas |
Message #109612, posted by highlandcattle at 09:46, 26/3/2009, in reply to message #109121 |
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I suspect an ARM11 is a better choice to port RISC OS too: the A8 is just too different. But there are no cool netbooks based around the ARM11.Then somebody would have to make hardware aswell. I'll know I'llbe buying one of these CortexA8 netbooks once Jeffrey & CO finishes this port |
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John |
Message #109616, posted by mr-mac at 19:46, 26/3/2009, in reply to message #109612 |
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Well... not yet...
Search for Mio MID (arm 11 based netbook) not out yet but hopefully.
Also see here (tablet/netbook dual purpose device). It is based on a beagle board so the current porting work also based on beagle board should make this option no1. for a risc OS portable.
http://i.gizmodo.com/5162584/first-hands-on-touch-book-is-part+netbook-part+tablet
If the work over on risc os open is sucessfull then we have a risc os netbook |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #110150, posted by Phlamethrower at 23:36, 28/5/2009, in reply to message #109616 |
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Some concrete news about the Snapdragon netbooks - http://www.liliputing.com/2009/05/qualcomm-coins-the-term-smartbooks-for-netbooksmartphone-mashup.html
No hard specs or details for the models that will be available, but apparently they'll be here in the autumn. |
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Paul Stewart |
Message #110151, posted by sa110_mk at 06:06, 29/5/2009, in reply to message #109596 |
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I know RISCOS Ltd still exists. How about Castle? |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #110152, posted by filecore at 06:27, 29/5/2009, in reply to message #110151 |
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They still exist too. |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #110155, posted by Phlamethrower at 18:51, 1/6/2009, in reply to message #110152 |
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Looks like Asus are in with Snapdragon netbooks too - http://www.liliputing.com/2009/06/asus-introduces-qualcomm-snapdragon-based-eee-pc-running-google-android-video.html
*mumbles something about making the wrong choice when he started porting to OMAP* |
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Eric Rucker |
Message #110157, posted by bhtooefr at 00:57, 2/6/2009, in reply to message #110155 |
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Well, there's still the Touch Book...
My guess, though, is that the Freescale i.MX515 and the Snapdragon will be the more successful netbook chips, they're actually meant for netbooks, whereas the OMAP3530 is essentially a cell phone chip (the OMAP3430) in a larger package so it's easier to design a board for it. |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #110158, posted by Phlamethrower at 01:46, 2/6/2009, in reply to message #110157 |
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Yeah, it's not that much of a big deal.
The fact is that when I started it was clear that OMAP3 chips were going to get used for at least something, and all the hardware docs (bar the SGX) were readily available, along with a dev board. Meanwhile with Freescale's/Qualcomm's chips I don't think there was a suitably public developer program available at the time, nor any dev boards available (not that I actually tried looking for any!), or even a single product that had been announced that was using the chips. Even now there isn't much information in the way of concrete hardware specs for the Snapdragon netbooks - even simple things like whether they're single or dual core (which would obviously be mostly useless for RISC OS in its current form).
The only problem is that I know that sooner or later people will start to want RISC OS to run on other hardware (especially if the Touch Book is a flop and no other OMAP3 netbooks appear), and I'll probably be the one they'll come to first! |
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Peter Howkins |
Message #110160, posted by flibble at 09:47, 2/6/2009, in reply to message #110158 |
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New machines.
Intel "Crown Beach" Atom reference board.
Cirrus Logic EP9315 (ARM9 SoC) reference board.
Both rescued from the skip |
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Gunnlaugur Jonsson |
Message #110161, posted by Gulli at 11:46, 2/6/2009, in reply to message #110155 |
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Looks like Asus are in with Snapdragon netbooks too - http://www.liliputing.com/2009/06/asus-introduces-qualcomm-snapdragon-based-eee-pc-running-google-android-video.html
*mumbles something about making the wrong choice when he started porting to OMAP* Looks like there will be a lot more companies releasing ARM based netbooks in the near future, Inventec has four models in the pipes and as they are a company that develops and produces "no-name" computers it's likely that almost anyone will be able to buy from them and brand any way they'd want to:
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-wistron-inventec-qualcomm-smartbook-netbooks-revealed-0145380/ |
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Eric Rucker |
Message #110162, posted by bhtooefr at 15:42, 2/6/2009, in reply to message #110158 |
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At this point, it looks like there's two Snapdragon chips, one a 1 GHz single core, one a 1.5 GHz dual core. And, it looks like there'll be a 1.3 GHz single core in Q4 of this year...
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/01/qualcomms-1-3ghz-qsd8650a-snapdragon-chipset-is-30-stronger/
And, for Freescale, there is now Genesi's developer program, at least.
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #110163, posted by Phlamethrower at 19:00, 2/6/2009, in reply to message #110162 |
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More OMAP3 stuff!
http://www.liliputing.com/2009/06/ecs-launches-t800-an-81-inch-android-powered-mini-laptop-video.html
There are also various devices being announced using Tegra, but that's based around an ARM11 core and so probably a bit less interesting than Cortex. |
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Eric Rucker |
Message #110164, posted by bhtooefr at 19:39, 2/6/2009, in reply to message #110163 |
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Ah, I forgot about those two chips. That solves the performance gap, that just leaves the peripheral issue. |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #110165, posted by Phlamethrower at 21:11, 2/6/2009, in reply to message #110164 |
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Ah, I forgot about those two chips. That solves the performance gap, that just leaves the peripheral issue. The OMAP3 does actually support CE-ATA, which I guess is how they're connecting the hard disc/SSD in the T800. Apparently the T800 also has (mini) PCIe, although I can't see any mention of it in the (preliminary) OMAP34x TRM. So I guess there's some scope for building an OMAP34x into a nettop type device, especially if you can use a PCIe graphics card and avoid the poor pixel rate of the onboard video.
Also, first actual i.MX515 netbook? http://www.liliputing.com/2009/06/wistron-n900z-good-battery-life-meh-performance.html |
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Eric Rucker |
Message #110167, posted by bhtooefr at 02:14, 3/6/2009, in reply to message #110165 |
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Is it just me, or is CE-ATA just an MMC-connected hard drive interface?
Anyway, I'm wondering if they've got something really screwy going on like a USB to PCIe bridge or something. |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #110170, posted by Phlamethrower at 07:22, 3/6/2009, in reply to message #110167 |
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Is it just me, or is CE-ATA just an MMC-connected hard drive interface? It uses the MMC controller, but presumably it will be a bit faster than your standard MMC card! |
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Phil Mellor |
Message #115467, posted by monkeyson2 at 09:58, 25/9/2010, in reply to message #110170 |
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I'm very tempted by the 27" LED Cinema Display. But then I wonder if, rather than shelling out £899 (!) for just a monitor, whether I should go all the way and get the bloody iMac. |
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Phil Mellor |
Message #120394, posted by monkeyson2 at 11:41, 15/5/2012, in reply to message #108644 |
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Estimated Delivery: 04 Nov, 2008 - 05 Nov, 2008
*excited* It's here! 
Is it too soon to be thinking about getting a new one?
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/14/apple-to-release-thinner-macbook-pro-at-wwdc/ |
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Andrew Poole |
Message #120398, posted by andypoole at 18:08, 15/5/2012, in reply to message #120394 |
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Estimated Delivery: 04 Nov, 2008 - 05 Nov, 2008
*excited* It's here!
Is it too soon to be thinking about getting a new one?
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/14/apple-to-release-thinner-macbook-pro-at-wwdc/
Meh. I wouldn't bother, but that's me. Mac OS X Lion (and Mountain Lion, from a quick play with the developer preview) is awful.
My MacBook Pro still runs Snow Leopard, and will be staying that way.
Anyway, my latest hardware purchase arrived today |
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VinceH |
Message #120401, posted by VincceH at 22:39, 15/5/2012, in reply to message #120398 |
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Anyway, my latest hardware purchase arrived today An HDMI lead? Meh. I have plenty of those - they're nothing special. |
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Eric Rucker |
Message #120402, posted by bhtooefr at 22:39, 15/5/2012, in reply to message #120398 |
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If the rumors of 2880x1800 are true, and it's IPS... I'll have to open my wallet.
Probably stick Windows on it using Boot Camp, I just want the screen. |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #120403, posted by Phlamethrower at 23:02, 15/5/2012, in reply to message #120401 |
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Anyway, my latest hardware purchase arrived today An HDMI lead? Meh. I have plenty of those - they're nothing special.
Don't be silly; he's clearly talking about the envelope! (Which was probably a good idea, considering that he's resting live, unshielded electrical equipment ontop of what looks to be an aluminium mac) |
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Andrew Poole |
Message #120404, posted by andypoole at 09:24, 16/5/2012, in reply to message #120403 |
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Anyway, my latest hardware purchase arrived today An HDMI lead? Meh. I have plenty of those - they're nothing special.
It's actually a HDMI->DVI lead, since my TV is apparently too old to have a HDMI socket, but instead has DVI in
Don't be silly; he's clearly talking about the envelope! (Which was probably a good idea, considering that he's resting live, unshielded electrical equipment ontop of what looks to be an aluminium mac) Yeah, I since built a case (1, 2) for it using everybody's favourite building material |
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Phil Mellor |
Message #120416, posted by monkeyson2 at 08:44, 17/5/2012, in reply to message #120398 |
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Is it too soon to be thinking about getting a new one?
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/14/apple-to-release-thinner-macbook-pro-at-wwdc/ Meh. I wouldn't bother, but that's me. Mac OS X Lion (and Mountain Lion, from a quick play with the developer preview) is awful.
I like Lion! Mail, Calendar, full screen apps are things I couldn't be without now. (Faffy saving and reloading tabs in Safari not so great though). Looking forward to Twitter integration, notifications and AirPlay mirroring in Mountain Lion.
Would love the retina display and more processing power for doing photo editing.
My MacBook Pro still runs Snow Leopard, and will be staying that way.
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