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Richard Goodwin |
Message #52292, posted by rich at 08:46, 1/3/2004 |
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...collects all eleven oscars it was nominated for. Woo!
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Message #52303, posted by andrew at 11:31, 1/3/2004, in reply to message #52292 |
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Message #52304, posted by monkeyson2 at 11:32, 1/3/2004, in reply to message #52292 |
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...collects all eleven oscars it was nominated for. Woo! ...and in the darkness bind them? |
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Message #52305, posted by andypoole at 11:36, 1/3/2004, in reply to message #52303 |
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Over-rated *slap*
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Message #52311, posted by andrew at 12:14, 1/3/2004, in reply to message #52305 |
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Enjoyed Master and Commander a lot more. By the end of ROTK I was getting a bit fed up of the whole idea of Middle Earth, maybe just fatigue. |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #52314, posted by rich at 12:51, 1/3/2004, in reply to message #52311 |
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Enjoyed Master and Commander a lot more. By the end of ROTK I was getting a bit fed up of the whole idea of Middle Earth, maybe just fatigue. Dude! Battle scenes! Oliphants! More battle scenes!
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Jason Togneri |
Message #52345, posted by filecore at 15:55, 1/3/2004, in reply to message #52311 |
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Enjoyed Master and Commander a lot more. By the end of ROTK I was getting a bit fed up of the whole idea of Middle Earth, maybe just fatigue. Yeah I thought the same. The others are a lot better than the first - or so I thought until my girlfriend forced me to watch the Extended Edition version - it is SO much better than the shite they released in the cinema! Even the scene with whatsername Galadriel was better and the whole thing generally made more sense. Watch the extended versions (we hired it from the library), they make a crap film enjoyable. |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #52347, posted by rich at 16:05, 1/3/2004, in reply to message #52345 |
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Watch the extended versions (we hired it from the library), they make a crap film enjoyable. I wouldn't say they were crap exactly, but I would agree with the watching of the extended versions. The cinema releases were very choppily edited to keep the length down for American-sized attention spans, whereas the extended DVDs flow better and give you more info.
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Andrew |
Message #52365, posted by andrew at 20:59, 1/3/2004, in reply to message #52345 |
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Enjoyed Master and Commander a lot more. By the end of ROTK I was getting a bit fed up of the whole idea of Middle Earth, maybe just fatigue. Yeah I thought the same. The others are a lot better than the first - or so I thought until my girlfriend forced me to watch the Extended Edition version - it is SO much better than the s***e they released in the cinema! Even the scene with whatsername Galadriel was better and the whole thing generally made more sense. Watch the extended versions (we hired it from the library), they make a crap film enjoyable.
I will get the DVDs eventually, it's just the thing had been going for three years with 2 oscar ceremonies in the middle and all the hype that goes with it all so I just thought let's get it over with.
Another thing which is controversial is I don't really like the cast for many of the main characters. Don't like the bloke who plays Frodo and I certainly don't like him who plays Sam, looks like big-headed bully boy what I've seen of him 
The Rohan people like the King of Rohan, Eowyn and Aragorn are alright though  |
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Andrew Duffell |
Message #52367, posted by ad at 21:03, 1/3/2004, in reply to message #52292 |
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...collects all eleven oscars it was nominated for. Woo! First one was OK, second was starting to get old. I haven't seen the third... waiting for the video. 
Pirates of the Caribeean was great though  |
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Message #52373, posted by Phlamethrower at 21:30, 1/3/2004, in reply to message #52365 |
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Don't like the bloke who plays Frodo and I certainly don't like him who plays Sam, looks like big-headed bully boy what I've seen of him Oi! Mr. Frodo! Give us the ring or I'll give you a wedgie!
Pirates of the Caribeean was great though Yup
Haven't seen Master and Commander though, seems to me like it could just be trying to ride on the success of Pirates of the Caribbean 
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Message #52378, posted by mavhc at 23:21, 1/3/2004, in reply to message #52373 |
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Haven't seen Master and Commander though, seems to me like it could just be trying to ride on the success of Pirates of the Caribbean Two more different films about ships would be hard to imagine |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #52387, posted by rich at 09:41, 2/3/2004, in reply to message #52378 |
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Haven't seen Master and Commander though, seems to me like it could just be trying to ride on the success of Pirates of the Caribbean Two more different films about ships would be hard to imagine
It is kind of like putting Titanic up against, um, Finding Nemo. Well, nearly all the main characters end up in the water at some point!
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Message #52402, posted by filecore at 12:26, 2/3/2004, in reply to message #52373 |
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And the less said about the League of Extraodinary Gentlemen the better I agree there  |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #52407, posted by rich at 13:26, 2/3/2004, in reply to message #52402 |
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And the less said about the League of Extraodinary Gentlemen the better I agree there
No, I think much should be said about the fact that the books are so much better. Especially as they don't have to pander to Sean Connery's ego.
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Message #52409, posted by andrew at 13:49, 2/3/2004, in reply to message #52407 |
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And the less said about the League of Extraodinary Gentlemen the better I agree there
No, I think much should be said about the fact that the books are so much better. Especially as they don't have to pander to Sean Connery's ego.
Does he dominate the film? |
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Message #52410, posted by andrew at 13:50, 2/3/2004, in reply to message #52387 |
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Haven't seen Master and Commander though, seems to me like it could just be trying to ride on the success of Pirates of the Caribbean Two more different films about ships would be hard to imagine
It is kind of like putting Titanic up against, um, Finding Nemo. Well, nearly all the main characters end up in the water at some point!
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Message #52411, posted by Phlamethrower at 13:57, 2/3/2004, in reply to message #52410 |
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And the less said about the League of Extraodinary Gentlemen the better I agree there
No, I think much should be said about the fact that the books are so much better. Especially as they don't have to pander to Sean Connery's ego.
Does he dominate the film?
No, it's more a case of 99% crap computer graphics and 0.0001% plot
Haven't seen Master and Commander though, seems to me like it could just be trying to ride on the success of Pirates of the Caribbean Two more different films about ships would be hard to imagine
It is kind of like putting Titanic up against, um, Finding Nemo. Well, nearly all the main characters end up in the water at some point!
Correct.
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #52412, posted by rich at 14:24, 2/3/2004, in reply to message #52411 |
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And the less said about the League of Extraodinary Gentlemen the better I agree there
No, I think much should be said about the fact that the books are so much better. Especially as they don't have to pander to Sean Connery's ego.
Does he dominate the film?
No, it's more a case of 99% crap computer graphics and 0.0001% plot
In the books, Quatermain was a cowardly opium addict who didn't deserve his good name, and Mina Harker had to drag out of retirement. Mina was the main guiding force of the group, and only hinted at a vampiric past (instead of vamping out at the drop of a hat). None of that would have suited Sean Connery however, so we get the standard Sean Connery Hero Type(tm) which he could do in his sleep - and proceeded to do so.
It comes to something where you have to point to a comic and say "Look! that was the version with subtlety!"
[edit] Oh yes, and a f***ing car! In the Victorian era! I know the original was very steampunk, but there was no car! Let's just roll out all the Hollywood cliches like car chases without any rhyme or reason!
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Message #52413, posted by Phlamethrower at 14:29, 2/3/2004, in reply to message #52412 |
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Message #52442, posted by [mentat] at 20:08, 2/3/2004, in reply to message #52314 |
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...getting a bit fed up of the whole idea of Middle Earth, maybe just fatigue. Only a bit? You did well...!
Dude! Battle scenes! Oliphants! More battle scenes! Endings! More endings.... zzzz huh?! Wha... oh, more endings... Oh for an interesting plot.
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Message #52443, posted by andypoole at 20:23, 2/3/2004, in reply to message #52442 |
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Over-rated Very.
...getting a bit fed up of the whole idea of Middle Earth, maybe just fatigue. Only a bit? You did well...!
Dude! Battle scenes! Oliphants! More battle scenes! Endings! More endings.... zzzz huh?! Wha... oh, more endings... Oh for an interesting plot.
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It was the best damned ending ever!
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Message #52469, posted by [mentat] at 14:43, 3/3/2004, in reply to message #52443 |
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It was the best damned ending ever! Yes (and to continue what must surely be sarcasm...) full of dazzling plot twists, delightful surprises and best of all, the throwing of a ring into some lava - if only I'd seen that one coming I wouldn't have had to sit through 9 hours of story-telling genius.
FFS. </sarcasm>
So it's acceptable fantasy fodder with good sfx, but like Titanic - mostly pap. |
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Message #52472, posted by Phlamethrower at 15:02, 3/3/2004, in reply to message #52469 |
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It was the best damned ending ever! Yes (and to continue what must surely be sarcasm...) full of dazzling plot twists, delightful surprises and best of all, the throwing of a ring into some lava - if only I'd seen that one coming I wouldn't have had to sit through 9 hours of story-telling genius.
FFS. </sarcasm>
Just because the ending's predictable doesn't make it a bad film. 99% of films out there end up with the good guy winning, and the majority of people still enjoy them.
but like Titanic - mostly pap. Heresy! (About LOTR, not Titanic ) |
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Message #52473, posted by monkeyson2 at 15:16, 3/3/2004, in reply to message #52469 |
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So it's acceptable fantasy fodder with good sfx, but like Titanic - mostly pap. At least you get to see Kate Winslet naked in Tit anic. What do you get in LOTR? A bunch of hairy footed hobbits. |
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Message #52476, posted by rich at 15:50, 3/3/2004, in reply to message #52472 |
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the throwing of a ring into some lava - if only I'd seen that one coming I wouldn't have had to sit through 9 hours of story-telling genius.
FFS. </sarcasm> Just because the ending's predictable doesn't make it a bad film. 99% of films out there end up with the good guy winning, and the majority of people still enjoy them.
Bearing in mind that the books are about 60 years old, I think that even the most suprising ending would have already become common knowledge by now. I wouldn't go to see the new Mel Gibson film if you don't like predictable endings - I'm pretty sure some dude dies at the end.
Most films have predictable endings - have you ever seen a sports film that *doesn't* have the plucky underdog winning at the end (apart from Rocky I and Cool Runnings)? Life's not about the destination, it's about the journey.
Hmm, I'm just trying to think of films that *didn't* have a predictable ending. Se7en, Fight Club and Usual Suspects are the only ones I can remember from the past decade or so.
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Message #52483, posted by filecore at 16:30, 3/3/2004, in reply to message #52476 |
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Hmm, I'm just trying to think of films that *didn't* have a predictable ending. Donnie Darko... but then again that was a really weird film. There are actually quite a few others but yes you're right, they're quite seriously in the minority.
And yes, I'm waiting to hire out the video of LOTR3 extended version, because the last 15 or however minutes... *fade out* yay it's ended, let's go home *fade out* oh damn, it's not finished, okay, NOW let's go home *fade out* *fade out* *fade out* *fade out* *fade out* aargh how many 'last' scenes are they going to show then fade before the end!?
It were annoying. |
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Message #52490, posted by andrew at 17:22, 3/3/2004, in reply to message #52473 |
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So it's acceptable fantasy fodder with good sfx, but like Titanic - mostly pap. At least you get to see Kate Winslet naked in Tit anic. What do you get in LOTR? A bunch of hairy footed hobbits.
But the women in LOTR can be mentally undressed surely? |
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Message #52495, posted by [mentat] at 17:57, 3/3/2004, in reply to message #52476 |
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Bearing in mind that the books are about 60 years old, I think that even the most suprising ending would have already become common knowledge by now.
So? Minority Report was published in 1962 (I think). Both the film and the original story had interesting (if not quite the same) endings!
It's not about knowing the LOTR ending in advnace, it's about the ending being sh/te and ponderous. - which is indeed a fault of the original story. We all knew he was going to destroy the ring. It's about how he does it. Why?! Is it really destroyed? Do we care?!
Life's not about the destination, it's about the journey. Indeed. The very long and ponderous journey.
Hmm, I'm just trying to think of films that *didn't* have a predictable ending. Se7en, Fight Club and Usual Suspects are the only ones I can remember from the past decade or so. Coming from someone else I could believe that, but from RICHG? Surely not!
What about The Sixth Sense, Wild Things, Twelve Monkeys, Signs, (the new) Planet of the Apes, Vanilla Sky, Unbreakable, Pulp Fiction, Phone Booth..... need I go on? |
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Message #52496, posted by moss at 18:02, 3/3/2004, in reply to message #52495 |
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They should have kept in The Scouring Of The Shire, just to annoy you futher |
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