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Anonymous |
Message #90878, posted at 15:57, 29/4/2002 |
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Quoted from that MyRiscOS interview with Roy:
Re. the laptop:
"-Will there be a working model at Wakefield?"
"-Yes."
Sounds fairly definite, anyone believe it though? |
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Guest |
Message #90879, posted at 16:08, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90878 |
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"Where is RiscStation at with regards to the Evolution? It has been on your website for ages now without an update. --- It still requires about 6 months work funding."
So does that mean the the evolution project is not really dead?
Michael |
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Anonymous |
Message #90880, posted at 16:18, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90879 |
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It means if someone throws money at it, they'll do something with it. Duh. Remind you of anything?
Cheers,
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Ron |
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RiscStation Software |
Message #90881, posted at 16:32, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90880 |
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As the interview says, we WILL have a portable at Wakefield running RISC OS.
Over the Evolution, the board is at RiscStation, running Linux at the moment. With around 6 months worth of work (which will require funding), it would be available with RISC OS. The project is far from dead.
I can expand on the buying of consumables though...
USB printer cable, 15 UKP from Dixons, 3.99 from CTA
Bi-directional printer cable, 9.99 from Dixons, 3.50 from CTA
HP colour cartridge (DJ640) 29.99 Dixons, 24.99 CTA
(or 24.99 as a pack of 5 from Viking)
It just beggars the question why some RISC OS users still waste money going through Dixons (etc) when your local RISC OS dealer is usually cheaper and buying consumables directly funds development of software. |
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Message #90882, posted at 16:35, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90881 |
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On a similar note, I bought an LCD (Iiyama AS4332UT) through Castle. As they don't stock this one they tested it worked on a RISC PC. They cahrged me the same price as Watford Electronics (renowned box-shifter, not so hot on service).....
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Guest |
Message #90883, posted at 16:37, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90882 |
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RiscStation Software Support,
Similarly to Evolution... my high-speed x86 PC is here and running Windows/Linux at the moment. With some months of funding and work, it would be available with RISC OS. The project is far from dead.
See how RiscStation's Evolution story has NO substance? |
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RiscStation Software |
Message #90884, posted at 17:46, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90883 |
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Running RISC OS on the Evolution is not as far away as you would suspect. The ability to run RISC OS software within a Windows environment has been with us for quite a while... ever heard of Virtual Acorn ;-p |
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Message #90885, posted at 18:37, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90884 |
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Of course, for that sort of money, you're not going to get a very good USB printer cable... |
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Guest |
Message #90886, posted at 19:04, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90885 |
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I can't help thinking this is a big marketing setup : isn't the person who did the "authorised 'leak'" in the newsgroups on the portable delay, the person answering the "RiscStation Software Support" mails and the interviewer 'bluebottle' in the MyRISCOS - Roy Heslop interview, all one and the same person ?
How independant is MyRISCOS in this story ?
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Mr Jake Monkeyson |
Message #90887, posted at 19:43, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90886 |
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A very good point. |
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Guest |
Message #90888, posted at 20:06, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90887 |
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RiscStation Software Support, bluebottle and Paul Johnson are all one and the same. He's trying to hide himself to see more authentic. It's very sad.
Regardless of the true facts of the story, this is little more than poorly assembled propaganda. |
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Guest |
Message #90889, posted at 20:12, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90888 |
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Look, there's no RiscStation portable. Any portable they do show at Wakefield "running RISC OS" will merely be a standard PC laptop running an emulator. I feel a little angry at RS for perpetuating this nonsense and getting everyone's hopes up. Come on RS, just tell the truth because currently you're a laughing stock.
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mark quint |
Message #90890, posted at 21:06, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90889 |
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*sigh*
RiscOS land has its fair share of pesimists doesnt it? :/ |
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Guest |
Message #90891, posted at 21:38, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90890 |
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Not to mention the land of RISC OS. |
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Paul F. Johnson |
Message #90892, posted at 23:19, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90891 |
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Poorly assembled propoganda eh...
We'll see...
Portable actually a PC running an emulator, well given legally you can't and that RedSquirrel no longer runs OS 4, then emulation seems highly improbable.
Am I bluebottle, yes.
Am I the one who does RSS, yes
AM I THE DOCTOR? |
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Chris Williams |
Message #90893, posted at 23:41, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90892 |
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Do you accept pizza for bribes though?
Chris |
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Andy Wingate |
Message #90894, posted at 01:29, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90893 |
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Otherwise, what about curry? |
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Guest |
Message #90895, posted at 06:06, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90894 |
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This isn't propoganda it is infact marketing. Good to see a number of companies actually fighting for our dosh! This is healthy!!
Just take a read of the Castle news release regarding the 100Mbit network card. Competition is a good thing and at last we are starting to see some. Part of this is getting "mind share" i.e. the more people talk about something the more people become interested. Let the gloves come off!
We need a couple of people to excite everyone! Go Paul J!
Things are certainly a lot more exciting that they were a month ago! Roll on Wakefield!
Cheers
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Guest |
Message #90896, posted at 06:49, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90895 |
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Sorry, can't understand some of the comments here. I thought the Evolution is dead and now I'm supprised that there is still some hope. And I think a 'may be' is better than a definite 'no'.
Michael |
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Guest |
Message #90897, posted at 09:07, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90896 |
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Did Roy do what Jean Claude Van Damme did to that British interviewer once? ;-) |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #90898, posted at 10:04, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90897 |
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I think the comments about propaganda and marketing are a bit naive - marketing and propaganda are the same thing, it's what you do with it that matters.
So what if the same person that works for RiscStation posted the interview? If it had been posted to the RS site, no doubt everyone would have still linked to it and read it. Or do you think that Roy's comments would be somehow substantially different if someone else had interviewed him (if that were possible)? No matter who does the interview, or who puts up "facts" from a press release, the fact remains that a company/personality is trying to get their point of view across to the public. That's how the system works. It's propaganda. Deal with it.
It may not be fashionable to say it, but more power to Paul for actually getting some info out there. People complain that RISC OS companies don't give out enough info, then when one does they complain again. |
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Guy Inchbald |
Message #90899, posted at 10:14, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90898 |
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From what RS say above, it appears that Evolution and the portable are just x86 Win boxes running a hardware emulator, on which an (appropriately negotiated) RISCOS sits.
Care to deny this, RS spokesperson? |
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Guest |
Message #90900, posted at 12:10, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90899 |
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No Roy did not fart loudly at the interview. He has manners. |
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Message #90901, posted at 12:14, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90900 |
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Guy:
"Portable actually a PC running an emulator, well given legally you can't and that RedSquirrel no longer runs OS 4, then emulation seems highly improbable."
So, no, the idea really is for the portable to run RO natively - it's a baby RS7500 thingy type.
However, the only prototype we've yet to see runs windows. It'll be nice to see it running RISC OS properly... at wakefield, apparently. I hope, but I have doubts :( |
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Message #90902, posted at 12:29, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90901 |
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When visiting RONWUG recently it was stated that they've had a portable PCB etc running on the bench for a while.
From what was also said, it seem the delays have been due to the case rather than any RiscStation specific hardware (reviews section at myriscos)
AJP |
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Message #90903, posted at 13:29, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90902 |
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I still think the interview was more interesting. |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #90904, posted at 13:58, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90903 |
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They have had to switch cases at least once IIRC |
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RiscStation Software |
Message #90905, posted at 14:32, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90904 |
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For the last time - I DO NOT WORK FOR RISCSTATION!
The software support address is run purely as a favour. It is not paid for in any way by Roy. I have never had a P60 from RiscStation either, nor a contract of employment. |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #90906, posted at 14:42, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90905 |
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You do /do/ work for RiscStation, even if they don't technically employ you; therefore you work for
RiscStation, at least for the purposes of this discussion.
Or should I stay off your side and not defend you in future? :) |
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John Duffell |
Message #90907, posted at 15:39, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90906 |
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Indeed, you can do work without being paid for it, I have spent ages doing work for university, and they've never given me a P60 or anything, in fact I pay them! |
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